Friday, August 6, 2010

The Price of Hate


Meet Roy A. Jones.  A 17 month old toddler who was beaten to death on August 2, 2010 by his mother's boyfriend for "acting too girly".

Pedro Jones of Southampton (not the boy's biological father), was arrested on charges of first degree manslaughter in Southampton Town Justice Court in connection with the toddler’s death.  The boy was killed, according to police, by Pedro Jones “striking him several times throughout his body with his closed fists and grabbing him by the neck.”

According to Pedro Jones in a police interview, he was “trying to make him act like a boy instead of a little girl.”

Pedro Jones further stated in the document that the incident was an accident, and that, “I never struck that kid that hard before.”

See this link for further details.



Meet Carl Joseph Walker.  Carl was 11 years old when he hung himself by an extension cord in the second floor of his family's home on April 9th, 2009, after being tormented by school bullies who repeatedly called him "gay".

His mother, who had just returned from a church service for her son, said Carl was a Boy Scout who played football and basketball. Walker found her son’s body when she went upstairs to check on him on Monday.

Said his mother: "I just want to help some other child. I know there are other kids being picked on, and it's day in and day out,"


See http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r/19137836/detail.html for more details.




Meet Eric Mohat, age 17.  Eric, a "quiet but likable boy, who was involved in theater and music" was called "gay," "fag," "queer" and "homo" and often in front of his teachers, who did nothing.  Then one bully in school said publicly in class, "Why don't you go home and shoot yourself, no one will miss you".

On March 29, 2007, he took a legally registered gun from his father's bureau drawer, locked himself in his room and shot himself in the head.
The bullying "accumulated over time," Ken Myers, the family's attorney, told ABCNews.com. "In math class, two or three picked on him constantly and mercilessly. Most of it was verbal, but they did some things like sitting behind him and flicking him in the ear, sticking stuff in his hoodie and putting eraser shavings on his head. Out of class they would shove him in lockers."
See http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/story?id=7228335&page=1 for more details.



Meet Jaheem Herrera, an 11 year old 5th grader at Dunaire Elementary School in DeKalb County, Georgia.  On April 16th 2009, Jaheen hung himself with a belt in his closet.

From the story:  "He came home much happier than when he left in the morning, smiling as he handed his mother, Masika Bermudez, a glowing report card full of A's and B's."

"He used to say Mom they keep telling me this ... this gay word, this gay, gay, gay. I'm tired of hearing it, they're telling me the same thing over and over," she told CNN, as she wiped away tears from her face.

"He was a nice little boy," Bermudez said through her tears. "He loved to dance. He loved to have fun. He loved to make friends. And all he made [at school] were enemies."

See the sad story here: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/23/bullying.suicide/



Meet Ronnie Parris.  Ronnie was 3 years old when he died on January 28 2005, of severe brain injuries inflicted by his father, Ronnie Parris Jr.

Apparently his father, concerned that Ronnie "might become gay", slap boxed with his son to "toughen him up, so he wouldn't become a sissy".

The toddler's mother, Nysheerah Paris, testified that her husband thought the boy might be gay, and would force him into a box.

In 2002, the Florida Department of Children & Families placed little Ronnie in protective custody after he had been admitted to the hospital several times for vomiting.

He was returned to his parents Dec. 14, five days after his third birthday. He had been with them six weeks when he died.

See http://tallonzektimes.org/bb/index.php?topic=5479.0;wap2 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Paris for the details.


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These are hardly the only victims.  Search for yourself if you dare.

You hater organizations out there (AFA, FRC, NOM, CWA, ADF, FOtF, and so many others) - you talk so much about looking out "for the children", and "protecting the children" as you push your hate and bigotry.

What about these children?

This is the price of hate.

These stories should not be forgotten, nor should they be allowed to repeat themselves.  Remember them.

Prop 8 Ruled Unconstitutional

Yes, I know it's been 2 days since the ruling, so this is hardly breaking news :)  I just did not want to have the last article regarding Day of Decision, Prop 8 sitting there all alone without any resolution.

So, Judge Vaughn Walker ruled that Proposition 8 violated the Equal Protection and Due Process clauses of the US Constitution, and in a quite concise, sweeping manner.

Currently the decision is stayed temporarily, so no one can run off to get married in California yet.  It's believed likely the stay will be made more permanent until all appeals (including to the Supreme Court) are exhausted, but I'm hoping not.  We'll see sometime next week.

His 136 page ruling is very readable by a non-lawyer and goes into exquisite detail regarding the merits of both the defense and plaintiffs in the case.  Hint: There wasn't a lot of merit in the defense (pro-prop 8) case.

You can find a link to the PDF of the ruling as well as a link to the evidence (including video evidence) here.      

The ruling incorporates 80 findings of fact in the case which will be very important during the appeals process.  The finding of law can be disregarded during appeal, but the findings of fact cannot, unless they are found to be demonstrably false.

Here are a select few I've cut/pasted, but I really encourage you to read the ruling yourself.  The ruling provides a good overview of the evidence and testimony presented - useful if you did not follow the trial as closely as I and others at the The Prop8 Trial Tracker site did :)

So, here are some of the findings of fact:

18. Protect Marriage is a “broad coalition” of individuals and
organizations, including the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-Day Saints (the “LDS Church”), the California Catholic
Conference and a large number of evangelical churches.


19. Marriage in the United States has always been a civil matter.
Civil authorities may permit religious leaders to solemnize
marriages but not to determine who may enter or leave a civil
marriage. Religious leaders may determine independently
whether to recognize a civil marriage or divorce but that
recognition or lack thereof has no effect on the relationship
under state law.


21. California, like every other state, has never required that
individuals entering a marriage be willing or able to
procreate.


The defense claimed that the ability to procreate was the fundamental reason for excluding LGBT's from being able to marry.

27. Marriage between a man and a woman was traditionally organized
based on presumptions of a division of labor along gender
lines. Men were seen as suited for certain types of work and
women for others. Women were seen as suited to raise children
and men were seen as suited to provide for the family.


33. Eliminating gender and race restrictions in marriage has not
deprived the institution of marriage of its vitality.


42. Same-sex love and intimacy are well-documented in human
history. The concept of an identity based on object desire;
that is, whether an individual desires a relationship with
someone of the opposite sex (heterosexual), same sex
(homosexual) or either sex (bisexual), developed in the late
nineteenth century.


44. Sexual orientation is commonly discussed as a characteristic
of the individual. Sexual orientation is fundamental to a
person’s identity and is a distinguishing characteristic that
defines gays and lesbians as a discrete group. Proponents’
assertion that sexual orientation cannot be defined is
contrary to the weight of the evidence.


46. Individuals do not generally choose their sexual orientation.
No credible evidence supports a finding that an individual
may, through conscious decision, therapeutic intervention or
any other method, change his or her sexual orientation.


52. Domestic partnerships lack the social meaning associated with
marriage, and marriage is widely regarded as the definitive
expression of love and commitment in the United States.


55. Permitting same-sex couples to marry will not affect the
number of opposite-sex couples who marry, divorce, cohabit,
have children outside of marriage or otherwise affect the
stability of opposite-sex marriages.


58. Proposition 8 places the force of law behind stigmas against
gays and lesbians, including: gays and lesbians do not have
intimate relationships similar to heterosexual couples; gays
and lesbians are not as good as heterosexuals; and gay and
lesbian relationships do not deserve the full recognition of
society.


62. Proposition 8 does not affect the First Amendment rights of
those opposed to marriage for same-sex couples. Prior to
Proposition 8, no religious group was required to recognize
marriage for same-sex couples.


67. Proposition 8 singles out gays and lesbians and legitimates
their unequal treatment. Proposition 8 perpetuates the
stereotype that gays and lesbians are incapable of forming
long-term loving relationships and that gays and lesbians are
not good parents.


74. Gays and lesbians have been victims of a long history of
discrimination.


75. Public and private discrimination against gays and lesbians
occurs in California and in the United States.


76. Well-known stereotypes about gay men and lesbians include a
belief that gays and lesbians are affluent, self-absorbed and
incapable of forming long-term intimate relationships. Other
stereotypes imagine gay men and lesbians as disease vectors or
as child molesters who recruit young children into
homosexuality. No evidence supports these stereotypes.


77. Religious beliefs that gay and lesbian relationships are
sinful or inferior to heterosexual relationships harm gays and
lesbians.


79. The Proposition 8 campaign relied on fears that children
exposed to the concept of same-sex marriage may become gay or
lesbian. The reason children need to be protected from samesex
marriage was never articulated in official campaign
advertisements. Nevertheless, the advertisements insinuated
that learning about same-sex marriage could make a child gay
or lesbian and that parents should dread having a gay or
lesbian child.


80. The campaign to pass Proposition 8 relied on stereotypes to
show that same-sex relationships are inferior to opposite-sex
relationships.


So, that was a few more than I wanted to include, but actually it was hard to not include them all except the first 15 or so which simply make statements of fact regarding the identities and expertise of the witnesses.

Here is the conclusion part of the ruling, which I thought would be nice to include here:

Proposition 8 fails to advance any rational basis in
singling out gay men and lesbians for denial of a marriage license.
Indeed, the evidence shows Proposition 8 does nothing more than
enshrine in the California Constitution the notion that oppositesex
couples are superior to same-sex couples. Because California
has no interest in discriminating against gay men and lesbians, and
because Proposition 8 prevents California from fulfilling its
constitutional obligation to provide marriages on an equal basis,
the court concludes that Proposition 8 is unconstitutional.

Predictably, the religious right is all up in arms about this decision.  One of the most amusing for me was from Maggie Galleger, Chairperson of the mis-named National Organisation for Marriage (NOM).  Who said in part:

If this ruling is upheld, millions of Americans will face for the first time a legal system that is committed to the view that our deeply held moral views on sex and marriage are unacceptable in the public square, the fruit of bigotry that should be discredited, stigmatized and repressed. Parents will find that, almost Soviet-style, their own children will be re-educated using their own tax dollars to disrespect their parents' views and values.
Love the references to Soviet Style, re-education camps, and other nutbaggery.  

Read her whole screed at San Francisco Chronicle if you can stomach it.

In my humble opinion, history was made on August 4th, 2010.  The The Prop8 Trial Tracker has a ton of articles, comments and links if you want to learn more.

Yes, I partied!  :)

Wednesday, August 4, 2010

Day of Decision, Prop 8

Well today (August 4th), Judge Vaughn Walker will issue his ruling on the constitutionality of Proposition 8.

Of course the folks at the The Prop8 Trial Tracker will be providing up to date information and commentary when the decision is announced.  This should occur within the next 4 hours (1-3pm California time).

Regardless of how the decision goes,  it is expected to be appealed the the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, and then most probably onto the US Supreme Court. 

In theory, the decision will be made available electronically from here:  https://ecf.cand.uscourts.gov/cand/09cv2292/  although it will no doubt show up just about everywhere else soon after.

Definitely an exciting day.  For a great overview of the possibilities, check out: Towleroad's article.

Other resources:

American Foundation for Equal Rights
Equality On Trial on Facebook
Prop 8 Decision Day FAQ
Nationwide Decision Day Events

It's gonna be a party, hopefully :)

Tuesday, July 27, 2010

How many NOMo's does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Ok, so Papa Foma at the The Prop8 Trial Tracker blog started a light bulb joke about the so-called National Organization of Marriage (NOM) and there were several entries, which I will update here as they come in. :)

The Question:

How many NOMo's does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Answers:

  • Well any one of them can do it… just don’t expect the light to come on!!!
  • None, god already did it in Genesis when he said “Let there be light”. Besides, lightbulbs are a product of science, and therefore satanic.
  • None, we aren’t small enough to fit inside a lightbulb, and screwing outside of marriage is wrong.
  • You can’t force us to disclose that! That’s intimidation and harassment!
  • Hopefully no more than thirty or so.
  • Jesus.
  • (from NOM) Don’t answer them they’re mean.
  • NOM: Can’t right now… too busy screwing gays!
  • None, they’ve got Rent Boys for that!
  • Unknown – NOMers fear light, so they have never attempted this feat.
  • 2, and they must be a man & a woman. If they are a same sex couple, the light bulb and the Universe will explode.
  • Is that covered in Leviticus?
  • None – we have no proof the lightbulb was ever out, so it doesn’t need to be changed.
  • None…if we all pray hard enough the light bulb will see the error of
    it’s ways and change itself
  • None. We prefer living in the dark. 
  • It's actually God's choice to put us in the dark. We should not go against His will by changing  the light bulbs ourselves.
  • Changing the light bulb would cause serious and irreparable injury to NOM because their lies would be exposed. Therefore, they have sought a stay with respect to the changing of the light bulb. However, it appears more and more that, regardless of the light bulb, people are starting to see NOM/Protectmarriage.com for who they really are. 
  • We voted. It doesn’t need changing. Besides, it’s “common sense” that the same light bulb should work for all of us for at least 300 years.
  • What lightbulb?
  • Any number of men, women, intersex and/or cross-gendered may ‘screw’ in the lightbulb, as the People have had their say on that matter, so long as only combinations of one man and one woman can call it ‘changing the lightbulb.
  • Being under a light is a “rite” not a “right”.
  • Only a clear majority of seven million Californians have the constitutional right to change the light bulb!!! but instead it has been changed by one biased gay activist judge!!!
  • NOM: Change?! 

Wednesday, July 21, 2010

Day 4, Volume 1 & 2: Federal DADT Trial: Log Cabin Republicans vs. United States

See  http://catissad.blogspot.com/2010/07/federal-dadt-trial-log-cabin.html for a description of what this post is about.

Day 4, July 16, 2010

From: http://online.logcabin.org/day-4-vol-i.pdf and
http://online.logcabin.org/day-4-vol-ii-corrected.pdf

MR. KAHN, Plaintiff atty (LRC)
MR. WOODS, Plaintiff atty (LRC)
MS. FELDMAN, Plaintiff atty (LRC)

MR. SIMPSON, Defense atty (USA)


First witness up for the day is CHRISTOPHER MEEKINS, previously an
attorney for White & Case. the law firm currently representing LRC.

His purpose in testifying here today is two fold - to assist in
providing evidence that LRC in fact does have standing to prosecute
this case, as well as to provide supporting information that an
upcoming plaintiff witness, 'JOHN DOE' is in fact a member of the
Republican party, and a member of LRC.

The defense seems interested in throwing out JOHN DOE's testimony by
indicating that he is not really a member of the LRC, a finding that
would reduce (if not invalidate) LRC's standing to pursue this case.

JOHN DOE is a currently serving individual in the US Army, whose
anonymity is being protected in this case so that he isn't kicked
out for a DADT violation.

The next plaintiff witness is MICHAEL ALMY, formerly a Major in the
USAF, discharged due to DADT.

I will excerpt some of his testimony below.


Q. = MR. KAHN, Plaintiff atty (LRC)
A. = MICHAEL ALMY, plaintiff witness

...

Q. Mr. Almy, did you serve in the U.S. military?
A. Yes, I did.

Q. How long was your active duty career in the U.S. military?
A. Slightly over 13 years.

Q. What years did that encompass?
A. 1993 to 2006.

Q. And in what branch of the military did you serve?
A. The U.S. Air Force.

Q. Were you enlisted or an officer?
A. I was an officer.

Q. And how did you become an officer in the U.S. Air Force
in 1993?
A. I earned my commission through Air Force Reserve Officer
Training Corps when I went through college at Wright State
University.

...

Q. Mr. Almy, why did your active duty career in the Air
Force end in 2006?
A. I was discharged from the Air Force because of the law
we call "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."

Q. And what was your rank when you were discharged?
A. I was a major.

Q. Mr. Almy, why did you join the Air Force?

A. I joined the Air Force primarily out of a sense of duty. My father
was also a career officer in the Air Force. He retired as a full
colonel. I had several uncles who had also retired from the
military. One uncle had retired from the Army and had service in the
Korean War. Another uncle of mine had retired from the Marine Corps
and had service in World War II, Korea, as well as Vietnam. So growing
up I always had a rich history of military service in my family and
just always knew that I would follow suit.

Q. How long did you intend to serve in the Air Force?
A. I had every intention of staying for 20 years where I was eligible
for retirement or perhaps longer than 20 years.


...

What follows are Mr. Almy's description of his 13 year career in
the Air Force, including promotions, commendations, awards, and various
deployments to Saudi Arabia and Iraq.

...

Q. Thank you. You also mentioned that you were discharged
under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in 2006?
A. Correct.

Q. Can you please describe to the Court what led to your
discharge circumstances?

A. Yes. As I mentioned previously, my unit left Iraq towards the end
of January 2005. The unit that replaced mine in Iraq was rotating
in. We had about a two-week transition time. Several weeks after my
unit left Iraq, someone who had been sitting at my same desk, same
computer, somehow private e-mails that I had written to family and
friends during the stress of combat zone, these e-mails were searched
for any type of content or any potential perceived violation of "Don't
Ask, Don't Tell." This was a personal folder. It was labeled
"Friends," so in the sense that there was no business or professional
reason for this particular individual to search this particular
folder. There were approximately 500 e-mails, over 500 e-mails that I
had put in this folder to designate my private, personal e-mail
communications while I was in Iraq.

Again, several weeks afterwards this folder was
searched. Approximately 12 to 15 e-mails were pulled out which were
damaging to myself as far as perceived violations of "Don't Ask, Don't
Tell." These e-mails that were searched in Iraq were forwarded from
the unit that replaced mine in Iraq. They forwarded these e-mails to
my commander back in Germany. And then approximately six weeks after
my unit had returned from Iraq, my commander called me into his
office. The first thing he did was he read me the DOD policy on
homosexuality. When he finished reading that he handed me a stack of
e-mails and asked how did I explain these e-mails.

In other words, he demanded an explanation for these e-mails.
I refused to do so. He pressured me to make a statement to
acknowledge the e-mails, basically to admit that I had
violated "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," and again, I refused to do
so. I told my commander at the time I would not make a
statement until I had first consulted with a lawyer.

MR. SIMPSON: Your Honor, we object on grounds of lack of foundation
and move to strike Mr. Almy's testimony regarding the circumstances of
the search.

THE COURT: The search of his computer?

MR. SIMPSON: Correct, Your Honor.

MR. KAHN: Your Honor, I think as my questioning goes on, I can
establish that foundation.

THE COURT: All right. Why don't you proceed -- well, I'm going to
strike the testimony regarding how the e-mails were discovered and you
may attempt to lay a foundation.

BY MR. KAHN:

Q. Mr. Almy, what generally were discussed in those
e-mails?
A. These were private communications between family and friends,
personal e-mails written for my own purposes to take my mind off the
stressful combat zone, combat situation. They were written to
approximately three or four people, friends that I had known,
including one person that I had dated briefly.


Some discussion about the proper use of government email accounts.
Soldiers serving in Iraq were permitted (and encouraged) to use their
government provided email accounts for both personal and business
purposes.

Access to private email facilities was not allowed without special
permission from the System Administrators. This was for security
purposes primarily.

...


Q. Besides using the government's e-mail account, was there any way
for a service member to communicate via e-mail other than to apply for
and receive the permission to access their private e-mails as you
testified to?

A. There was no -- no.

...

Q. Did the commander tell you how he received the e-mails?
A. He explained to me that they had been searched in Iraq by the unit
that had replaced mine. They were forwarded to my commander from the
commander of the unit in Iraq.

Q. You testified earlier he pressured you to make a
statement in response to being confronted with these e-mails.
How did he pressure you?
A. We went round and round for approximately 20 minutes. He wanted me
to acknowledge the e-mails or to provide some explanation basically to
say that I had written the e-mails, in essence, acknowledging that I
had violated a perceived violation of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."

Q. Did he show you the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy?

MR. SIMPSON: Your Honor, on the last answer,
objection, move to strike on the grounds of hearsay.
THE COURT: If this was the witness's commander, it
would be a party admission. I'm going to overrule the objection on that basis.
You may continue.

THE WITNESS: The first thing that happened during this meeting was my
commander read me the DOD policy on homosexuality.

BY MR. KAHN:

Q. At the end of this meeting -- well, how did this meeting
end?

A. I was relieved of my duties. In essence, I was fired where I had
led 180 men and women in my directorate. At the end later that
afternoon, my commander called an officer call, there was
approximately 30 to 40 officers in my squadron, called an officer call
through the whole squadron and said Major Almy had been relieved of
his duties, saying basically I had been fired.

Q. How did you react of being relieved of your duties that day?
A. I was completely devastated. I drove myself home. I took my uniform
off. I curled up on the floor of my bathroom in the fetal position and
just balled like a baby for probably several hours.

Q. At that time how long had you been serving in the Air
Force?
A. At that time it was a little over -- near the 12-year
point.
Q. At that time had you ever made a statement to anyone in
the military that you were gay?
A. No, I had not.

Q. Was there any effect on your security clearance as a
result of your meeting with your commander?
A. Approximately three months after I was relieved of my duties, my
security clearance was suspended. I had a TS or top secret SCI
clearance, which is one of the highest level clearances that an
individual can have in the military, and that was restricted. My
access to classified information was suspended at that point.

Q. Can you remind the Court, please, when this was that you were first
relieved of your duties?
A. This was March 14th, 2005.

Q. Did you contest your discharge proceedings?
A. I did. When I was served formal notification of what we call a show
cause letter -- in other words, that means that the Air Force thinks
they have sufficient grounds to discharge me under "Don't Ask, Don't
Tell," I had several options at that point. I could have resigned my
commission and gone quietly, I could have done nothing, in which case
the case against me would have moved forward, I could have made a
statement, or the option that I chose was to invoke my right to an
administrative hearing.

Q. And why is that that you invoked your right to an administrative
hearing?
A. Because I wanted to fight this as much as I could. I maintained
that I had done nothing wrong, that I had not violated the policy
because I never told. In other words, I kept my private life separate
from my professional life.

...

Q. Did you solicit any letters from fellow service members?
A. I solicited and obtained approximately two dozen letters from
service members that I had worked with. Some of these were junior
enlisted or officers who had worked directly for me, some of these
were my peers who had worked alongside me, and some of these were
superior officers who I had worked for.

Q. And what was your purpose in soliciting those letters?
A. The purpose in these letters was to show the Air Force these were
men and women who had worked side by side with me who knew my
professional conduct, who knew my reputation as an officer, who knew
my performance. It was to establish credibility with the Air Force and
show first-hand knowledge of people who knew me and urge that the Air
Force retain me, that I not be discharged from the Air Force.

MR. SIMPSON: Objection, Your Honor, hearsay.
THE COURT: Objection is overruled.
You may answer.

THE WITNESS: Not one person that I asked to write a letter in my
defense objected. In other words, they all supported, they all
wholeheartedly endorsed writing a letter for me, and they all urged
the Air Force that I be retained.

...

Thus begins a long argument from defense as to whether these letters
can be admitted into evidence. Defense does not believe these letters
have the proper 'foundation' or relevance to be admitted.

After some back and forth between defense and plaintiff, the letters
are admitted into evidence, however not for the purposes of
determining the witness's character.

Law, it's an adventure!


...


BY MR. KAHN:

Q. Mr. Almy, as a communications officer in the Air Force, are you
familiar with the permissible uses of e-mail, of government e-mail
accounts?
A. I am quite familiar with them from the standpoint that part of my
duties as a communications officer or in the career field in general,
the communications career field, is to operate and maintain the
network. The system administrators who are in charge who are
maintaining the network on a day-to-day basis fall within the com
squadron, which is what I was a part of. That was my career field. So
as such, I was very familiar with the network as well as the permitted
use of government e-mail.

THE COURT: If I may, when you say "systems administrators," would
someone who was a systems administrator report to you?
THE WITNESS: Yes, they would, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Thank you.

BY MR. KAHN:

Q. Given your knowledge in this area, would it have been permissible
for a service member to discuss heterosexual conduct using the exact
same government e-mail account on the exact same government computer?

MR. SIMPSON: Objection, Your Honor, relevance.
THE COURT: Overruled.

THE WITNESS: Yes, it would have been.
MR. KAHN: Thank you.

...

Next witness: ROBERT J. MAC COUN, PH.D., PLAINTIFF'S WITNESS, SWORN

Dr. MacCoun was a behavioral researcher for the RAND Corporation.

We are also going into Volume 2 of the day's testimony.


Q. = MS. FELDMAN, plaintiff atty
A. = ROBERT J. MAC COUN, plaintiff witness

...


BY MS. FELDMAN

Q. Shall we go back to the previous question?
A. Sure. I was mentioning that I've been involved in two different
recent RAND projects. One of which is the -- I'm part of a larger team
that tried to project the tax revenues of the marijuana ballot
initiative and whether some of the claims that have been made were
plausible. And then, the other project is revisiting the issue of
sexual orientation and U.S. military policy for the Pentagon.

Q. Dr. MacCoun, have you previously testified as an expert witness in
court or arbitration proceedings?
A. Yes. I was an expert witness in the Abel trial in 1994, I believe.

Q. What was the nature of the Abel trial?
A. This was the ACLU's challenge to the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"
policy.

Q. Can you please describe to the court your role in the Abel case?
A. I testified about the unit cohesion.

Q. Were you found to be qualified as an expert in that case?
A. Yes, I was.

Q. Dr. MacCoun, what was your assignment in this case?
A. I was asked to testify about the unit cohesion and the facts of
repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" on unit cohesion.

Q. Have you reached an opinion on whether allowing open homosexual
military service would impair unit cohesion and military performance?
A. Yes, I have.

Q. What was your opinion?
A. In my opinion, it is -- repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" would
have negligible effects on unit cohesion and military performance.

...

Therein comes a rather detailed report of how the RAND report (518
pages of it) was put together, who worked on it, how many separate
teams contributed to it, what studies were
involved, etc.

It also discusses the Pentagon's Military Working Group, who in
conjunction to the RAND report were commissioned by Secretary Aspin.


...

Q. Do you know what the military working group was?
A. Secretary Aspin commissioned two studies of the issue: The Pentagon
military working group and the RAND Corporation, as a civilian working
group.

Q. And did the military working group issue a report?
A. They issued a memorandum.

Q. What was the conclusion of the military working group's memorandum?
A. They recommended the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.

Q. How long was that memorandum?
A. 15 pages, I believe. Something like that.


15 pages. Further testimony reveals that very little of the RAND
report made it into the Military Working groups recommendations.

Here's some more testimony:


Q. And why is it your understanding that the military working group
knew what conclusions you were reaching?
A. Well, we had shared our preliminary conclusions with them in the
video teleconference and also there were various media reports
describing what's in drafts.

Q. Dr. MacCoun, do you know whether any member of RAND was invited to
testify before Congress in 1993?
A. Not to my knowledge, no.


Read it if you've got a few hours :)

End of Day 4